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Michelle & Boyd Bottorff wrote: > > I'm trying to decide what I actually THINK about copyright as a natural > right and the "authorial rights" bit, and money keeps tangling up in it. > What if we eliminated money. What would be the "natural rights" of a > creator to his creations in a mythical society where one's every need > was already provided for? My own take on the subject is that it should be assumed that people want to have their stuff published and be paid for it unless it's proven otherwise, so if you can't trace an author, you should be able to publish and put the money aside for himer or hiser heirs or assigns when they turn up. The law's insisting on positive consent has wrecked my ability to reprint some wonderful stuff whose authors disappeared and may be dead decades ago. The natural right of a creator to his creation is not generally conceded. Even current law says copyrights do eventually expire. Standard folk custom was that you had no right to keep other people from changing your words or melodies, reusing your melody with other words, reusing your words with another melody. You did have the right to be remembered by people who knew you as the writer, and not be credited with someone else's changed version of your stuff or have your stuff miscredited to someone else. But standard folk custom didn't recognize commercial use of creations. I don't think capitalism is part of nature (though I do welcome it as a way of enriching a culture). And I think that adding profits to the picture, plus the right to trade your right to profit from your creation in return for money, complicates things a lot. Personally, I'd have a sliding scale for copyright according to how much money was being made from the creation. Maybe a year for each $X, with X equalling the cost of mid-size car or 3000 paperbacks or some such, so that a filksong would stay in copyright far shorter than a blockbuster movie. I suspect that your feeling that it's impolite to hand songs around or change them indicates you're not thinking of filk as part of folksong but rather as part of commercial pop music, in which even an arrangement can be copyrighted. What are your feelings on recipes, and does it make a different if you got them out of a cookbook or from an elderly relative? Do you have a right to pass them on without checking with the author? To change the ingredients? --Lee