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> Agreed. But what about actions adults don't disagree on? > Like robbery. Like putting their hands on girls' breasts or > anyone's genitalia without consent. Like beating up people > till they have to go to a hospital. Why say that this is > okay because they're children? I don't think its okay. If my kids were being beat up at school (or whatever), and the teachers were unwilling/unable to intervene, and the parents of the offending child were unwilling/unable to intervene, then I wouldn't send my kids to school. Academicly speaking, my kids would probably be better off home-schooling anyway, and I seem to be reasonably able to deal with adversity without ever having been beaten bloody at school, so I don't see how it could be considered a required "character building" experience. I do pretty much expect them to put up with verbal abuse... I think it's unnecessary, and uncalled for, and I jump on them quick enough when they try it, but if they're ever going to be able to participate comfortably on usenet, they're probably going to need to start developping their flame proof skins... Er, that is to say, as an adult I've never had anyone try beat me up, but I think they'd have to live like a hermit to never be the target of verbal abuse. <sigh> Michelle Bottorff Lady Lavender -- Family webpage: http://home.sprintmail.com/~mbottorff/index.html Lady Lavender's Filksongs: http://www.freemars.org/lavender/index.html 25r:2a:1p