[critique] Re: Yonder comes a Filker: The whips, The hot coal s.

[Sean Cleary <SCleary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

	Ok, I was challenged to do specifics. And I am not good enough
to do a song on my own. So I do generalitys, knowing that the only way
to escape them is to destroy the song and rebuild it. Thus the whips and
hot coals. And I really need to be told the goal of the song. (Celebrate
parody? Complain about parody? Be ambivalent about parody? Say that a
song that complains about parody is funny because it is a parody? I took
the song on its own merrits, as I did not know the original. And that
may have been my problem. So that was the joke? A parody that complains
about parodying? Well ok. It will lose those who do not know that it is
a parody.) Also/and so, because I can not find the goal, I can not make
concrete suggestions on how to get there. 
	Sean


		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Maya Corbin [SMTP:kyttn@comclin.net]
		Sent:	Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:04
		To:	critique@filknet.org
		Subject:	[critique] Re: Yonder comes a Filker:
The whips,
	The hot coals.


		----- Original Message -----

		From: Sean Cleary <SCleary@delmarmedical.com>
		To: <critique@filknet.org>
		Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:01 AM
		Subject: [critique] Yonder comes a Filker: The whips,
The hot
	coals.
		<snip>

		>
		> But, the song lacks passion. It is good, not great. It
has
	good lines,
		> and I might find myself singing it, but where is the
feeling?
	Where is
		> the pain? I am not sure that it is not a parody of the
	feelings
		> expressed, a satire? How do you feel when parodied?
You object
	when the
		> subject is changed to offensive humor, but at a almost
	parliamentary
		> objection level, not a passionate level, not from hurt
	feelings, but
		> from vaguely offended sense of something.
		> Please explain the feeling of violation(??) to someone
who
	would be
		> honored to produce anything good enough to be
parodied.
		>
		> Sean

		As Lee said in her post, this song was not meant to be
serious.
	Does the
		final verse (added in my response to Lee) clarify things
at all?
	This song
		came about very much because of a couple of parodies
that would
	not leave my
		brain and some that Greg introduced me to (Honey Glazed
Ham for
	example),
		and a discussion about a song that Gwen Knighton wrote
which was
	filked
		within a couple of hours of posting!  It is meant to be
rather
		tongue-in-cheek and silly more than something serious.


		Maya